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A typical Scotland and Ireland Golf Vacation appeals to golfer and non-golfer alike. The Scottish leg usually focuses on St Andrews and adopts something akin to a daily back-to-base model, whilst the Irish leg more closely resembles a point-to-point tour and usually focuses on one of two options, Dublin and the North or West Ireland. It’s difficult to include both Irish regions within the timeframe we’re typically given without the itinerary becoming something of an Irish trip. The trio of Portmarnock, RCD, and Portrush are harder to book, but easier to manage if we can get them, then the west coast trio of Ballybunion, Lahinch and Waterville.
A typical Scotland and Ireland Golf Vacation is laid out as a ten night duration that observes a mixture of a point-to-point itinerary (Ireland) and back-to-base (Scotland) , staying at:
At about 650 miles, the Scotland and Ireland Golf Vacation is a medium mileage, medium intensity transport burden.
In total, this should demand about 18 hrs 00 mins of road time, which is an average of slightly under 1 hr 45 mins a day (that’s manageable)
We will need to fly from Belfast to Edinburgh
Outside of specific driving guiding for non-golfers, we wouldn’t advise the use of a hired driver for the Scotland and Ireland Golf Vacation .
The Scotland and Ireland Golf Vacation can support Luxury, Premier and Affordable options
As ever, the scale of non-golf activity depends on whether we’re adding extra value for golfers, or building a stand alone proposal for non-golfers to run alongside a golf programme. The Scotland and Ireland Golf Vacation exhibits a strong correlation between golf and non-golf, with many genuine points of interest co-existing
The only two that any non-driving, non-golfers would need to consider bringing in a driving guide would be Stirling and any trip into Perthshire, although we could see that it would be easier all round if Glamis & Scone or The East Neuk with Falkland Palace were also considered under these terms
The following courses operate the following handicap thresholds for gentlemen and ladies respectively
Unlike some courses who needn’t be rigid in enforcing their handicap thresholds, the St Andrews Links Trust will do. Failure to provide evidence will result in a refusal to allow us to play
The Old Course diary is available on-line to consult for availability and is dynamic in so much as it changes every season, although there are some known block outs that occur every year, notably the first week of May, the first week of June, and a run from early/ mid September to early/ mid October
There is no play on the Old Course on Sunday
Portrush doesn’t permit visitor play on Weds, nor Sat or Sun mornings. Their week day play is a mixture of full and half days. Tues and Thurs are full days. Mon is afternoon only, and Friday is mornings only. In order to play the Dunluce links off a morning tee-time, Portrush now require that we play a second round on their Valley course over two days. It maybe necessary to replace Portstewart under this regulation if the booking has been left a little bit later and the less restricted afternoon times have all been taken
RCD doesn’t permit visitor play on Weds or Sat, or Sun morning. They also operate a mixture of half days and full days for weekdays. Mon, Tues, and Fri are full days
Portmarnock only permits visitor play on Mon, Tues, Thurs and Sun afternoons
North Berwick don’t permit visitor play on Fri, Sat or Sun morning. Sunday afternoon play has seemingly been restored after having been withdrawn previously, suggesting perhaps that it’s vulnerable.
Carnoustie whilst usually being open 7 days of the week, visitors will have to play afternoon tee-times at the weekend
With all the usual disclaimers of a lottery being random, and there being no such thing as a certainty etc plus the variable factor of availability for the specific week chosen, our prospects of winning a ballot on this programme would otherwise be considered as good (if we sought to use every opportunity to do so)
We should be able to contest four open ballots (Weds, Thurs, Fri & Sat) and three ‘singles’ ballot (Thurs, Fri & Sat) for a total of seven.
We normally advise against contesting ballots on the shadow of North Berwick. This would lead to a forfeit at North Berwick if we chose to do so and won. If however, we considered this a ‘price worth paying’ in exchange for the Old Course, then yes we could do it
Green fees need paying in advance and are always non-refundable against a certain timeline
Green fees need paying in advance and are always non-refundable against a certain timeline
A St Andrews Old Course ballot is drawn 48 hrs before play, and we can safely assume that this is outside any refund window! Any win in the ballot therefore will send us into a clash with which ever course we had booked that day, and we’ll a loss of the green fee unless we can get the tee-time rearranged. For this reason we don’t necessarily want to fill every day of the week up with a paid green fee and golf course. That would be designing a forfeit (we are after all setting up to win a ballot and play the Old Course)
Luckily the St Andrews New Course can’t be prebooked, and every other tee-time after 09.00 is offered present-pay-and-play-on-the-day. This is a great way of putting a placeholder into the itinerary without taking on the liability of a prepaid green fee
We try to schedule the New Course in any St Andrews swing to max out this position. If we win a ballot on the day we were going to try and play the New Course, we simply play the Old Course instead. If we win a ballot on another day, then we look to reschedule the affected course onto the day we had the New Course inked in and avoid a forfeit that way. We’ll usually try and put the New Course last in an itinerary then to give ourselves the maximum length of runway onto which we might land the rearranged round
Perversely perhaps, we’re actually hoping not to play the New Course. The reason we wouldn’t play it, is because we’ve won a ballot and are playing the Old Course instead
Whereas golf tour operators enjoy favourable arrangements with a lot of courses, one which represents a risk to any assembly in which they feature is RCD.
RCD open their diary for play the following season in February and will sell out in 36 hrs. If we’re late to the party, we’ll be most unlikely to play there. This means that we need to operate on a long-lead time.
This isn’t the only issue we face there however
RCD sell their tee-times on one hectic day by phone. This involves hitting ‘last number redial’ over and over again in the hope of landing on their limited by number call stacking system. Very often we have to spend hours and hours meeting the engaged tone.
Faraway Fairways have nearly always succeeded in getting tee-times at RCD (eventually) but we’ve had too many near misses to know that we’ll fail again in the future.
There is a known risk in this process, and whereas clients are always welcome to roll the dice themselves and see if they can get lucky alongside our efforts (can always be worth trying), but we’ve never had anyone succeed where ahead of Fairways Fairways yet
The west coast courses of Ballybunion, Lahinch, Waterville and Tralee are handicapped somewhat by three of them denying visitor weekend play. This makes them difficult to line up with St Andrews since the one that does permit weekend play (Waterville) also happens to be furthest south
It’s made harder still by the flight schedules between Shannon and Edinburgh being nothing like so frequent as those which involve Dublin or Belfast (or even Cork). There are typically only three flights a week between Shannon and Edinburgh and they do tend to appear on different days of the week (often on poor times) with very little predictability from one season to another